And so the Criminalisation of Being a Woman marches on...

[logansrogue]

Utah bans miscarriages.

What these lumbering dinosaurs don't seem to understand is that something like 90 percent of ALL pregnancies fail in the first three months. If you even crack open a book about obstetrics (Open a book about LADY PARTS?! How SILLY!) you will be amazed by the number of things that can go wrong with a human foetus. The fact we get so many healthy babies out of the deal is truly miraculous.

What next? Taxing for having periods? Death penalty for having an abortion?

Swear to Sagan, this shit is fucking evil.

Comments

[hmsharmony.livejournal.com]

I want to clear up that this only applies to abortion and women who purposely go out and do something to cause a miscarriage (like having someone beat them). So they're not going to charge woman with a crime if they have a miscarriage due to natural causes. That said, I'm still pissed off as hell about this. The government should NOT be telling women what they can and cannot do with their body, and I'm getting SICK of it. What the hell does the male governor from Utah know about being pregnant? This is why I HATE Conservatives. Just...*shivers* They don't want to be told how to control their businesses, but God forbid that our social lives be free from the government's control. *Eye roll*

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Yeah but who gets to decide whether a miscarriage is brought on or not? I don't trust a misogynist system like Utah's to correctly judge when a woman has deliberately gotten rid of her baby.

And even if she did - it's wrong, deeply wrong, to jail her for that. This is a bundle of totally fucking messed up.

Also, if you live in Utah or have to put up with that sort of government - I am so very sorry.

[hmsharmony.livejournal.com]

Luckily I don't live in Utah, and the area where I live is really liberal, but I still live in the US which means every once in a while I have the unfortunate experience of running into people who think they should decide what I should do with my body. *Sigh*

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

My deepest sympathies. *sigh* Thankfully people are pretty pro-choice in Australia, so it's very rare indeed that I run into someone that'll look down on a woman for getting an abortion.

[hmsharmony.livejournal.com]

Thanks. :-\ Hopefully one day that'll be the US (but somehow I doubt it).

[holly-go-noor.livejournal.com]

I second the question below. HOW can they prove whether or not something was purposely caused? What if she's in an abusive relationship and gets the crap beaten out of her by a violent boyfriend and that's what causes it? Does she still go to jail?

D:

[hmsharmony.livejournal.com]

I think they're claiming that they would persecute women who actively tried to have a miscarriage. In a case of physical abuse they wouldn't be charged (the man would, which is how it currently stands in many courts anyway). But I agree, it's definitely leading to a slippery slope situation, and it could result in women being wrongfully charged of "murder."

[holly-go-noor.livejournal.com]

What I meant was, what if he beats the crap out of her and reports her for it OR denies that he did it once anybody found out.

Slippery slope, indeed! D:

[hmsharmony.livejournal.com]

Ah, got it, yeah. That's where the slippery slope comes in, I think. Hopefully they'll repeal the law ASAP.

[holly-go-noor.livejournal.com]

I hope so, but it IS Utah.

[hippiegal22.livejournal.com]

I try to have faith in the human race. But stuff like that makes it very, very, very difficult.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Once, someone sent me a 1200 dollar check over the internet to save my sick cat. I was asking people for commissions so I could raise the money through working for it. But this lovely anonymous lady just gave me the money.

There are still good people out there.

[hippiegal22.livejournal.com]

Aww! How sweet! :D

I just tell myself the media always focuses on the worst. As one of my coworkers said, "Drama sells."

[im-an-aaangel.livejournal.com]

IMO if a woman has a miscarriage, the only people who should be aware of it are her and her doctor or anyone else she chooses to tell. The law has zero reason to step in. And if a woman DOES intentionally make herself miscarry, perhaps they should try looking into the reason why she did so instead of making her a criminal. Fucks sake, Utah.

[hanabishirecca.livejournal.com]

It is another sign (in my mind) that our political right is in the process of hemorrhaging to death. Christian Conservatives are going to such extremes to try and outlaw anything that they don't approve of, that they seem to be completely blind. They are somehow unaware to the fact that not only are they destroying the political party that supports them, but they are also destroying Christianity in this country.

In 2007, 76% of this country was Christian and 16% of populated was either unaffiliated or atheist. In 1997 the country was 85% Christian.

I view these as desperate attempts to try and grasp at the last remaining threads in this country by the few who want to tell others how they should live. It will take at least another ten years, but eventually, you will see these things all but disappear as these laws are overturned and the population shifts further away from those who support this kind of crap.

If it doesn't, I'm going to have to either move to Austrialia or maybe France. I haven't decided which yet.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Australia. We have beaches and awesome weather.

[hanabishirecca.livejournal.com]

And you.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

:D

[hotclaws.livejournal.com]

Ugg,stupid lawmakers,though that is a redundancy right there.

[asweetdownfall.livejournal.com]

Way to fail epically, Utah. :\

[shirasade]

When I heard about this last week, it made me completely nauseaus. :(

[shantari.livejournal.com]

I have ceased to be surprised by this kind of shit.

[aeditimi.livejournal.com]

wow. and i'm a murderer. although how i might have known i don't know. but i'm sure it must have somehow been my fault.

evil and beyond. wow.