Discussion Question at Shakesville
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logansrogueHey all.
There's a really awesome question being asked at Shakesville, but the comment count is HUGE and I thought it'd be nice for me to answer it in my own journal. I figure maybe you guys might have some interesting stories as well that I know I'd love to hear!
What has someone wrongly assumed about you because you are a woman? (Or because they first wrongly assumed that you are a woman.)
People are often surprised to hear that I hate weddings. I really don't like them. Helping my little sister with hers only cemented my loathing for traditional weddings. Seriously, if I ever find myself in the position of needing to get married, I will put on a white dress that I like that I can wear at later occasions (something 30s and fabulous), go down to the nearest body of water with whoever I'm marrying and then do my vows with an alternatively spiritual celebrant. Family can sit on the grass/sand/whatever and watch. And then, I'll have a barbecue on a warm day with sunshine. There'll be food laid out, but it will be easy to prepare and will be more likely the spirit of a casserole night rather than a wedding, which is usually ridiculously expensive and yucky because caterers can't cook worth a damn.
I've also been mistaken for my niece's mother before, but I think that's because Ruby and I look ridiculously alike.
Men have also wrongly assumed that I like having my arse squeezed at pubs and clubs. They have promptly discovered that no, I don't, and I'm not afraid to tell them as such.
I'm lucky enough that I'm not aware of most of the things people have assumed about be because I'm a woman. I've had the wonderful fortune of knowing very progressive people with widely varying tastes and gender representations, and my good fortune seems to continue with age. So I'll write a list of things that aren't what mainstream media and the dominant heteronormative culture would expect of me, being a woman:
- I don't like hair dye or excessively styling my hair with damaging products.
- I don't shave my armpits.
- I don't give a shit about Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston.
- I have never seen Sex in the City. If I want to watch a group of sassy broads talk about sex, I'll watch The Golden Girls, thanks.
- I like retro V8 cars from the 70s. They are sexy.
- I also like VWs of every stripe.
- I am obsessive about trains and boats.
- I don't care if the wind messes up my hair.
- I don't wear make-up unless it's a special occassion.
- I don't wear perfume unless I have to.
- I don't spend hours on the phone.
- I don't generally go on about my problems to my boyfriend. I have a psych for that.
- I fart around my brothers and sisters. It's hilarious.
- I am not afraid to talk about my ladyness. Examples; my gynie, my vagina, my lady-bits, my tits, my boobers, my periods, Red Hell, my girly-hard-on (they so exist).
- I'm not afraid of bugs, moths and butterflies, worms, amphibians, reptiles or birds.
- I like being messy.
- I am obsessed with comics, mostly creating rather than collecting.
- I like the arts, as in actual gritty, confronting art. When I do the non-fandom stuff, that is.
- I have huge feet.
- I swear.
- I say what I mean, when I want to, wherever I want to, as long as it hurts nobody's feelings and isn't a damaging thing to say.
- I put off doing the washing.
- I rarely iron anything. Cause I hate it, and I hate standing up for long periods of time.
Ways in which I fulfill those stereotypes:
- I do like the colour pink.
- Shiny things attract me like a bower bird.
- I like clothes.
- I like shoes.
- I like playing with make-up when the mood takes me and I have a massive collection of eyeshadows and lipgloss/lipstick.
- I love nailpolish and have well over a hundred bottles of the stuff.
- I don't like being close to spiders. I am arachnophobic, though I don't hate them. I love them in their natural environment, AWAY FROM ME.
- I like putting my hair into interesting hairstyles.
- When I do get dressed up, I really enjoy it.
- I like babies, kittens, puppies, baby ducks and other cute things like that.
- I have more glitter than one woman really needs.
- I like fairies/faeries and other mythical creatures.
- I love dolphins.
- I play the Sims games.
- I like jewelry (cheap jewelry, though I do yearn for a real gold bracelet since I lost my last one).
- I like looking pretty.
- I have pictures of pretty men on my wall.
- I like crafts.
- I sometimes wear frilly underwear with bows.
I could probably go on, but I think you get the point. :) Feel free to talk about the ways in which you fulfill or buck the stereotypes. <3
There's a really awesome question being asked at Shakesville, but the comment count is HUGE and I thought it'd be nice for me to answer it in my own journal. I figure maybe you guys might have some interesting stories as well that I know I'd love to hear!
What has someone wrongly assumed about you because you are a woman? (Or because they first wrongly assumed that you are a woman.)
People are often surprised to hear that I hate weddings. I really don't like them. Helping my little sister with hers only cemented my loathing for traditional weddings. Seriously, if I ever find myself in the position of needing to get married, I will put on a white dress that I like that I can wear at later occasions (something 30s and fabulous), go down to the nearest body of water with whoever I'm marrying and then do my vows with an alternatively spiritual celebrant. Family can sit on the grass/sand/whatever and watch. And then, I'll have a barbecue on a warm day with sunshine. There'll be food laid out, but it will be easy to prepare and will be more likely the spirit of a casserole night rather than a wedding, which is usually ridiculously expensive and yucky because caterers can't cook worth a damn.
I've also been mistaken for my niece's mother before, but I think that's because Ruby and I look ridiculously alike.
Men have also wrongly assumed that I like having my arse squeezed at pubs and clubs. They have promptly discovered that no, I don't, and I'm not afraid to tell them as such.
I'm lucky enough that I'm not aware of most of the things people have assumed about be because I'm a woman. I've had the wonderful fortune of knowing very progressive people with widely varying tastes and gender representations, and my good fortune seems to continue with age. So I'll write a list of things that aren't what mainstream media and the dominant heteronormative culture would expect of me, being a woman:
- I don't like hair dye or excessively styling my hair with damaging products.
- I don't shave my armpits.
- I don't give a shit about Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston.
- I have never seen Sex in the City. If I want to watch a group of sassy broads talk about sex, I'll watch The Golden Girls, thanks.
- I like retro V8 cars from the 70s. They are sexy.
- I also like VWs of every stripe.
- I am obsessive about trains and boats.
- I don't care if the wind messes up my hair.
- I don't wear make-up unless it's a special occassion.
- I don't wear perfume unless I have to.
- I don't spend hours on the phone.
- I don't generally go on about my problems to my boyfriend. I have a psych for that.
- I fart around my brothers and sisters. It's hilarious.
- I am not afraid to talk about my ladyness. Examples; my gynie, my vagina, my lady-bits, my tits, my boobers, my periods, Red Hell, my girly-hard-on (they so exist).
- I'm not afraid of bugs, moths and butterflies, worms, amphibians, reptiles or birds.
- I like being messy.
- I am obsessed with comics, mostly creating rather than collecting.
- I like the arts, as in actual gritty, confronting art. When I do the non-fandom stuff, that is.
- I have huge feet.
- I swear.
- I say what I mean, when I want to, wherever I want to, as long as it hurts nobody's feelings and isn't a damaging thing to say.
- I put off doing the washing.
- I rarely iron anything. Cause I hate it, and I hate standing up for long periods of time.
Ways in which I fulfill those stereotypes:
- I do like the colour pink.
- Shiny things attract me like a bower bird.
- I like clothes.
- I like shoes.
- I like playing with make-up when the mood takes me and I have a massive collection of eyeshadows and lipgloss/lipstick.
- I love nailpolish and have well over a hundred bottles of the stuff.
- I don't like being close to spiders. I am arachnophobic, though I don't hate them. I love them in their natural environment, AWAY FROM ME.
- I like putting my hair into interesting hairstyles.
- When I do get dressed up, I really enjoy it.
- I like babies, kittens, puppies, baby ducks and other cute things like that.
- I have more glitter than one woman really needs.
- I like fairies/faeries and other mythical creatures.
- I love dolphins.
- I play the Sims games.
- I like jewelry (cheap jewelry, though I do yearn for a real gold bracelet since I lost my last one).
- I like looking pretty.
- I have pictures of pretty men on my wall.
- I like crafts.
- I sometimes wear frilly underwear with bows.
I could probably go on, but I think you get the point. :) Feel free to talk about the ways in which you fulfill or buck the stereotypes. <3
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Date: 2010-12-02 04:38 am (UTC)-I hate the question "What are you thinking?" and only ask it if someone appears seriously deep in thought. My ex asked it more than I did.
-I love comics. Particularly "objectifying" ones like Vampirella, DarkChylde, The Darkness...
-I don't mind picking my nose.
-Farts are funny.
-I don't shave my underarms unless I'm going to wear something sleeveless. I almost never shave my leg.
-I like dinosaurs.
-I hate makeup. I hate the feeling of it on my face. The only make up I don't mind is blush and eye shadow. Lipstick can rot in hell.
-I hate doing my hair.
-I hate Sex in the City. It's embarrassing.
-I hate to cook.
-I don't care about having several purses to match with outfits.
-I do not want kids. Ever. At all.
-I don't like diamonds. Or yellow gold. Silver or white gold for me.
-I like lizards and snakes.
Ways in which I am a girl.
-I like shoes, which sort of sucks because I'm limited in my shoeage due to my artificial leg.
-I love bags. Love. I'll get a bag and then a month later get distracted by new bags any given store.
-I like soft fluffy things. Like kittens.
-I like rings and necklaces. I don't wear any anymore though.
That's all I can think of for now.
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Date: 2010-12-02 07:23 am (UTC)Is the size of the foot on your artificial leg different to your other foot? It's not something I'd ever thought of, which is a whole level of privilege in itself.
It's funny, I never thought I liked yellow gold, and it wasn't until I'd found a bracelet and began to wear it that I fell in love with it. Probably helps that I'm mad about Egypt, the jewellry of which involves a lot of yellow gold. White gold is *very* pretty though. But as I said, I love shiny things. I'm sad like that.
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Date: 2010-12-02 07:28 am (UTC)Also while it can adjust for heels to a degree by taking screws and wrenches and stuff to the ankle, that takes effort, so screw that. And ultimately it doesn't point so I can't really get it into boots without heavy modification to the shoe. I had some worker boot type things and I had to cut the tongue all the way almost down to the toe to get them to function.
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Date: 2010-12-02 07:43 pm (UTC)HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!
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Date: 2010-12-03 02:17 am (UTC)-I did kung fu for a couple of years and it was awesome
-I don't do make-up, I don't do high heels, I have no interest in fashion
-I also don't give a shit about Brad, Angelina, or whoever the fuck is 'hot' right now
-Pretty sure I don't want kidlets
-Thinks huge weddings are a waste of effort and monies. I've seen some of my friends get married, and the behind the scenes seems like more work than it's worth.
-I think pink is utterly boring, probably because of the 'pink is for girls' crap
-I tend to find romance main plots boring
-I like action movies, and sci fi, and stuff with fight scenes
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Date: 2010-12-14 10:35 pm (UTC)Not Girly:
- I love comic books
- I love action movies
- I love science fiction AND fantasy
- I rarely wear makeup
- I have no clue how to do anything with my hair
- I have never wanted to have a kid
- I really don't think babies are cute and I don't want to hold it
- I can (and often do) swear like a sailor
- I like swords and other old fashioned weapons (but hate guns)
- I love rock music, including 70's heavy metal/hard rock
- I never wanted to get married or have a traditional wedding. When I finally did get hitched, we had a Pagan/Renaissance Thang in a park and a potluck reception in a nearly 100 year old women's center.
Girly:
- I love animals - all of them but especially cats & dogs
- I like Winnie The Pooh (and Eeyore too!)