Fuck you, Roman Polanski.

[logansrogue]

I might take to calling him "Rapin' Polanski" from now on.

And I'm gutted. Monica Bellucci, Tilda Swinton, Terry Gilliam, Alfonso Cuaron... they have signed that wretched horrible petition to "Free Polanski" that half of Hollywood has signed.

How. Fucking. DARE you! How can you sleep at night? A 13 year old girl was drugged and raped! Artistic talent is NOT a "Get out of jail free" card. If you're any sort of reasonable human being, if you have any spine or any humanity in you whatsoever, you man up and SUFFER THE FUCKING CONSEQUENCES.

I get so mad at people that do the wrong thing and don't want to own up to it. It just - UGH!

Oh, and I hate to have to say this, but don't argue about Roman Polanski's case to me. I don't care, I don't want to know. He's guilty as far as I'm concerned, he admitted to it. Defending him means you think it's okay for 13 year old girls to be taken advantage of. There's no shades of grey here, no "maybe"s, no "yes, but".

You can rage on about it though, please do. Feel free to let it out, man.

Comments

[angriest.livejournal.com]

I can't work out why it's such a controversial thing since to me it seems so ridiculously black and white. Guy commits crime. Guy is charged with crime. Guy pleads guilty to crime. Guy runs away. Why are people finding this so hard to get their heads around? Polanksi's past, his own personal tragedies, his artistic talent, ALL 100% IRRELEVANT.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

It's moments like this I love you so much, buddy. *hugs the crap out of you*

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Awwww!

[strangedave.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I like a lot of his films, but not even he disputes his guilt.

There are no doubt arguments to be made that he should be punished more or less than other convicted rapists. Those arguments can be made at the sentencing hearing that he has been dodging for 30 years.

[loic.livejournal.com]

Bad people sometimes make good art. But that doesn't make them good people.

Polanski committed a crime and needs to serve his time. Just like the Manson Family were locked up for killing Sharon Tate, just like the SS officers of Auschwitz were locked up for their roles in the millions of Jews who died in the Holocaust like Polanski's mother.

[asweetdownfall.livejournal.com]

This post = my thoughts exactly.

I don't get their 'morals' excuse either. FAIL HOLLYWOOD.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I think one of them said that those that were seeking for his extradition were "moral puritans". It's been AGES since I'd been called that for disapproving of the abuse of women! And by ages I mean, "It happened the other fucking day!"

[meleth.livejournal.com]

Man, the Puritans, with their extreme views like disapproving of sexual assault.

[ryttu3k.livejournal.com]

What the hell? He drugged and raped a thirteen-year-old and was never punished for it! FUCK his 'artistic vision' or whatever bullshit that is, the fucker should be locked up for it.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

*fist bump* Fuckin' A, man!

[anarchicq.livejournal.com]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I guess now I'll never get to see what a Roman Polanski film about Charlie Manson would be like...

....I don't like his films. I found The Pianist and Rosemary's Baby dull as dirt. Though I did like the Ninth Gate.

I don't think I need to say my thoughts on this situation because COME THE FUCK ON!

[starfyre01.livejournal.com]

It's so ironic that just a few weeks ago, Hollyweird was happy to roast Kayne West's balls in the fire for what he did to Taylor Swift at the MTV Music awards, isn't it? Now that we're talking about this child rapist, it's a completely different story because "he has contributed so much to the movie community."

WTF?

The lack of logic... It burns! Fail, so much fail! And Whoopi Goldberg with her "it's not rape-rape?" GAH! Jesus, they don't call it HollyWEIRD for nuthin.'

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I am so disappointed in Whoopi right now. That is the LAST thing I expected to hear from her mouth. She's usually so with it on other issues.

And yeah, it's fine to crucify Kanye for being a dick. But when that dick drugs and rapes a child? People suddenly shut up. Makes me sick to my stomach.

[starfyre01.livejournal.com]

I'm not surprised by her actions, in all honesty. She defended Chris Brown after he beat up Rhianna on The View, too. I don't want to put up the Youtube link, but it is... disturbing that she's saying crap like that. It makes me feel all headdesky and whatnot.

[secrets-n-lies.livejournal.com]

*stays quiet then*

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's probably a good idea. :T

[leviathan0999.livejournal.com]

On the one hand, the case itself is simple, and the crime is irrelevant: Committed crime. Pled Guilty. Skipped country to avoid punishment. Spent 30 years playing a deliberate international game of hide-and-seek to avoid arrest. Lost game. Goes to jail. Done.

On the other hand -- and this is a question, not a veiled criticism -- does the fact that his victim is among those preferring the case be dropped make a difference? (She sued, she reached a settlement with Polanski, was paid an unspecified sum, and is satisfied. She feels further pursuit just makes her life more uncomfortable.)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

No. Read this post (http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/09/her-reasons-are-not-yours.html). I will not talk about this.

[phoenixwriter.livejournal.com]

Good read, thank you :)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

*Salutes*. Shakesville is a place of sanity and justified rage. I love it.

[meleth.livejournal.com]

No. Even if the rape case were withdrawn (and the trial is over, and he pled guilty), by fleeing before sentencing, he committed a further crime. So now he's guilty of two crimes, and should be punished for at least one.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Love you.

[meleth.livejournal.com]

I mean, it isn't even a matter of ethics or morality. It's a matter of what the law actually says, which is that two crimes were committed.

[3starsinmyeyes.livejournal.com]

his "victim" is fighting for his release too. And while I feel that he should be punished for his crime, the statute of limitations on rape in the US is like 7-10 years, so I'm not sure they can even really charge him. GAH!

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Dude. Dude. Did you seriously just use scare quotes around the word 'victim'? She was his victim, no scare quotes, no bullshit. It was not consensual in ANY way whatsoever - she said no REPEATEDLY. He drugged and raped that child. He admitted to it. What part of that isn't clear here?

And this isn't a charge. It's not alleged. There is no question here. He was CONVICTED. He admitted guilt. There is no statute of limitations on that. They can do this and they have every reason to. He went on to rape many young women. This is important. People need to know that SHIT LIKE THIS CAN NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. Think about what you're doing and saying. Excusing this piece of shit is contributing to the rape culture, which is contributing to making it easier for other motherfuckers to get away with shit like this.

I strongly suggest you read this post (http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/09/her-reasons-are-not-yours.html) over at Shakesville.

I know I'm talking about this firmly and emotionally with you, but it's something I feel deeply about. Please understand. I'm going through this cause I care.

[3starsinmyeyes.livejournal.com]

I did and the more I find out about this, the more I realize I shouldn't have. I didn't know much of the story, I was actually trying to avoid it cuz it does piss me off, but in so many different ways its hard to name them all. I don't mean that they shouldn't charge him, but with the way the stupid law is, I wasn't sure if they could. Believe me, I'm not excusing this what so ever, its insane it took this long to get a hold of the guy. Its not like everyone in the fricken world didn't know where he was. But I do agree, this shit is not ok. Ever. No matter who says what about what. ITS. NOT. OK. I'm honestly scared to read the link you posted, because I know its going to send me into a rage. I do apologize if what I posted came out wrong. When I read that his victim was trying to get him freed along with everyone else... I was seeing red. I completely understand where you are coming from.

[nephron.livejournal.com]

He has been charged and convicted already, he just hasn't been sentenced.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

It's cool, I know you're all right. *hugs*

[meleth.livejournal.com]

The statute of limitations refers to open cases. This case is closed, because Polanski pled guilty. However, fleeing before sentencing is a further crime. They've already charged him, he's guilty, and now he's a fugitive from the law.

[3starsinmyeyes.livejournal.com]

Ok I wasn't sure how it applied. Well then I hope they give him the max that they can.

Statutes of limitations do not make sense to me when it comes to violent crimes. *shakes head*

[windtear.livejournal.com]

A) I agree with you completely. It's disgusting.

B) I heard an interesting theory about why Hollywood wants it dropped: given the way everyone there's condoning it, the 'jokes' about the casting couch, and the fact nobody called him on it before, he's not the only offender and chances are he's not even a member of a small minority. If Polanski goes down for committing rape, then that immediately raises the likelihood of someone else who's done the same thing also going down for it. Which raises the likelihood yet again... Hollywood is throwing fits not because Polanski's likely to be jailed but because if it goes ahead they are.

Which is why I'm sitting here chanting "Go down, Polanski, go down" - because when he does, the chances of the other nameless victims of all the other monsters finally getting justice goes up.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Topple the motherfucking juggernaut. Begin the anti-rape wave!

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

This. Stories of the film industry's systematic abuse of women, from children to sex workers to directors, are so common that there's no need to recount any of them here.

[im-an-aaangel.livejournal.com]

I ranted about this on my FB too. I can't believe how many amazing actors are fighting for his release, either. They all say that since his victim has forgiven him, he should be let out? Well that's great that she's forgiven him, I guess, but this isn't even just about her anymore. What sort of example does that set for the victims who have NOT forgiven their abusers. And what example does it show rapists? "Hey, you can get away with a horrible crime if you wait 30 years and maybe gain a good rep in the film industry!"

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

It's fucking sickening, really.

[starfyre01.livejournal.com]

The list that is on ONTD has got some names wrong - and Melissa @ Shakesville needs to update her latest post on this. Further down in that post comments, somebody posted the official list of signatories on the petition. Natalie Portman, Harrison Ford, Jeremy Irons and Sam Mendes are NOT on there. However, the ones that ARE on there make my head spin. UGH.

*head goes boom!*

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

THANK GOD. I did not want to have to give up my Harrison Ford habit!!! (And I'm very glad Natalie Portman is still okay for me to see as well!!!)

[shantari.livejournal.com]

Why is this a grey area? WHY??