Let that be a lesson to you, Sandilands.

[logansrogue]

You do not fuck with the Jews. Or fat people. Jews and fat people. I'm just annoyed harrassing a 14 year old girl on the air wasn't enough. Or the years of bullshit before this.

Call me petty and spiteful, but it's kinda nice to see Mr. "I Can Do What I Want" be served a world of "NO".

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[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

I only know of this on-going news event through your blog since American news is so informative. :/ Nonetheless, I have this icon, made from a screencap and quote from 'Munich'. I haven't seen Inglorious Basterds yet, but I'm hoping it will make a trifecta of bad-ass Jew films (the other two being 'Exodus' and 'Munich'.)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Heh, I like seeing kick-ass Jews. I love that in Numb3rs, it's the main characters that are Jewish. And they're all-American, and they fight for right and good. It's nice to see such positive portrayals on TV. You know, instead of just a random wisecracker or the sidekick or whatever. I mean, there was a recent episode where Don, one of the main brothers of the show, was talking to his Dad about going back to Temple to study, cause he wanted some spiritual answers. It was great to see on a prime-time TV show. I haven't seen Inglourious Basterds yet, and I probably won't, only because I'm incredibly squeamish and I trigger like a bitch lately. But I hear it's a great movie. :)

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

My whole family is a fan of Numb3rs! Personally, I could do without the maths part (I have a major maths learning disability and my brother is a maths genius who went to MIT. I got the verbal end of the stick, which matters not in public schools in the States.) ANYWAY! I love the show because of the focus on non-stereotypical secular Jewish family. It simply doesn't exist anywhere else on tv. (I was so happy and impressed that there was a Anglo-Jewish character on the BBC's 'Being Human', though! Even if it wasn't perfect.) I hate how people constantly say Jewish people run Hollywood, yet there are never main Jewish characters, and if there is one, they're stereotyped to death or ambiguously Jewish. (Like Ross and Monica on Friends. Where it's discussed once and ignored for all the Christmas episodes. Ugh!)

Sorry, I could rant about this for hours.

I'm so sorry about your triggering, though. :( I do, too, but for very different reasons, and it drives me mad. It can be a song or a smell or a sensation in the body, and I have a flat out panic attack. I hate my brain.

P.S. I don't know if you heard, but Lucy Lawless is going to be a tv series take-off of 'Spartacus' here in the States in the winter. I am so excited!

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I have a major maths learning disability

Join the club! Maths and me does NOT mix. But I'm great with English, writing and reading, and visual problems. Do you have digilexia? Cause if I have anything, it's probably that.

I love the writing for Numb3rs. I love how healthy Charlie and Amita's relationship is, and if they have problems, they're normal problems. I love how, despite the horrible things that happen to these wonderful people, they're NOT fucked up assholes and it's still compelling TV. I could just kiss the writers, the show makes me so happy. I had to stop recapping and mocking because the show got SO GOOD that I ran out of things to make fun of! :D

I DID hear about that! I'm glad Lucy is on TV again, but it's a sad state of affairs that she's a wife and not the lead character. How times have changed, eh? *sigh*

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

I was diagnosed with visual-spatial disorder when I was pretty young. My IQ didn't match up with my test performances, etc. But now my therapist thinks I have dyscalculia, which I guess really didn't 'exist' to the known world when I was seven! I seem to fit it perfectly, but I would need to be re-tested to know for sure.

I totally agree about your views of Numb3rs. I was so sad to read a blurb in Entertainment Weekly's website that one of the show's creators (not the Ridley brothers, who do rock!) think that this will be the last season. (Which I don't understand, because it has pretty high ratings here!) They always cancel good tv. :(

I was hoping this series would be more like HBO's 'Rome' where the women were totally as kick-ass as the men. Atia of the Julii (in my icon) was the most powerful woman on the show and she was 'just' a widow. In fact, the show had it where Brutus' mother, Servilia, was the one who concocted the murder of Julius Caesar. The women of 'Rome' rocked. :)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Sometimes I wonder if I have it. I suspect I do. I'm really shitty at maths and I fit most of the symptoms. I really just suck with maths and equations and stuff.

Is it? Bummer. I really like Numb3rs. I'll be sad to see it end. Ok. Amita and Charlie obviously have to get married. If you end a show, that's the rules. :D

Isn't this new show being made by Rob Tapert? It's one step from being made by Renpics, which did Xena. And Xena was problematic at best with the feminist stuff. There was a lot of fetishistic stuff going on, and using the lesbian thing for titillation. Thankfully there were enough women working on the crew to balance it out. But still. It doesn't sound like this new show will bother with any of that.

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

I can't do even the most simple math problems in my head. Nor can I put together puzzles, even with the instructions in front of me. I also have very bad depth perception and a tonne of other things that really made dyscalculia stand out to everyone once they read about it.

Ooh, a beautiful Jewish/Hindi wedding! That would be amazing in real life, let alone TVLand.

I honestly don't know who is making the 'Spartacus' series. I know it's going to air on Starz, which is a pay cable channel here. They're pretty new to the pay cable tv show world, so I can't say I have very high hopes for it. I don't think anything can top 'I, Claudius' or 'Rome', honestly. But I'll try to be hopeful.

Xena lost me when they called those flying skeletons 'Dryads'. My major is mythology and folklore and though I concentrate on the British Isles and Ireland, Dryads are my most favourite mythological creatures, period. Since the age of 12! You don't mess with my tree nymphs! I still watched after that, but I was angry. It's not a hard thing to look up!

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

As a multidenominational pagan (and now universal gnostic) I found the show could be incredibly insulting to Greek Mythology and to spirituality in general. I just turned off the logic circuits and enjoyed the bad/fun TV, you know? Plus the boys. The boys were so pretty. *pets Ares and Joxer lovingly*

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

You know, that's the only logical way to watch the show! I took all the mangling of Greek (and other) mythologies and current religions with affront because I was a teenager and so very much devoted to my study. (I must admit, I'm still rather like this, though, and can't watch things like the BBC's 'Merlin' or Showtime's 'The Tudors' (I love British history) without wanting to throw a remote through the screen.)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I thoroughly enjoy Merlin as well, but I know they're "re-imagining" the lore. What some don't understand is that these aren't just old fun stories. There's morality and spirituality bound in there, hundreds of years of beliefs and human understanding interwoven in the form of myth and legend. But it doesn't trigger me and it's more fun than Crime TV Clone #23432473, so I watch it anyway. :-P Plus Arthur is pretty.

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

What some don't understand is that these aren't just old fun stories. There's morality and spirituality bound in there, hundreds of years of beliefs and human understanding interwoven in the form of myth and legend.

This is exactly my point. It's why I can't watch it. I think I'm far too deeply immersed in the original canon, whether it's verbal or text, to watch re-imaginings. Now, there are plenty of gifted authors who write re-tellings, which don't bother me at all because they truly understand the myth, legend, or Faerie tale they're re-telling and keeping it intact. Shows that just use them for a jumping off point drive me insane. I'm a purist about these things and it irritates a lot of people, so I've become quieter about it. But am I glad you can enjoy it! 'Excalibur' is my favourite movie version of Arthurian legend, but I'm afraid there's a scene that might trigger you in it.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I'm really unfamiliar with Arthurian Legend. I'd like to learn about it (especially since there's a lot of references to it in alchemy) but I wouldn't even know where to start. Any good books for dummies like me? (And I know, it's nuts that I've never read Arthurian Legend. In my defense, I learnt about Greek Mythology at school, and Aboriginal Dreamtime stories).

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

You're not a dummy! Not at all! I'm just trying to earn my PhD in mythology and folklore. I'm a bit weird. ;) You can try the classics 'Le Mort d'Arthur' by Sir Thomas Malory and Chretien de Troyes' 'Arthurian Romances'. I'm also a fan of the bit more simplified 'King Arthur: Knights of the Round Table' by Andrew Lang. My favourite novelisation, however, is 'The Mists of Avalon' by Marion Zimmer Bradley, even though it does flip the tail on its head by making it all about the women!

I'm impressed that your school offered such learnings! If it wasn't maths or science, my school wasn't interested. Such a shame.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Well, no, I pursued Greek Mythology on my own. I found a book at school with cool pictures called "Gods, Men and Monsters", and borrowed it CONSTANTLY. I read the myths over and over. I loved Ares even then, and Apollo and Athena! Artemis, too. I even wrote my own myth, but it wasn't very good. I found my Mum had an old Reader's Digest Encyclopaedia of just about Everything and it had stuff about mythology in it too. So I read that as well. I was sad when I graduated from primary school and couldn't take that book out anymore. I grew up and then bought it off of eBay. Now I have it again. *hugs it*.

The Aboriginal Dreamtime stuff was something they were doing in all the schools at the time. Trying to bring Indigenous culture into the consciousness and identity of young Australians. I wanted to learn more, I only really learnt Rainbow Serpent stuff from the peoples up North. I want to know a bit more of the stories of the people that used to live in the area I live now. I want to know what happened in this land before Europeans came and developed on it. You know, the song of the earth under my feet. I know that sounds strange, but if you're in the bush, it really does have a spirit all of its own. I just want to shut up and understand what was here before. If that makes any sense. I started rambling. Hehe.

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

Greek mythology is worth pursuing on its own! I love it so. :)

I didn't start to learn about Aboriginal culture until my first year in uni, but even that was scant. They were very focussed on teaching us South American mythology and folklore, which I must confess, I don't find as interesting as others. I'm not a huge fan of anthropomorphic myths, though I do like the Japanese fox women and various other examples. But on a whole, I dislike it. I even get creeped out by those weird pictures of cats and dogs dressed as people! But that's a totally different tangent. ;)

We had something similar in grade 4, 5, and 6. We learnt a bit about the various Native American tribes that lived in our area, how the towns got their names from them, that sort of thing. It all culminated with-- and I swear it was called this-- Indian Village, where we dressed up (very badly and inaccurately) as Native Americans and were given a trade or job. I was a bead maker! Omigod, I cringe at how horrible and insulting it was. Everyoen got to pick their 'Indian name' which was inevitably some name for drugs or alcohol. We had a Sweet Grass and a Moon Shine. Oh, it was so bad. Then we moved on to the Dutch settlers and then the British and visited all the many, many places George Washington and his troops slept, ate, took a leak, hanged someone, etc, in our area. It all came full circle, quite depressingly, during my first trip to England when I visited Major John Andre, who was hanged about a mile from my house for treason, at Westminster Abbey. His sister buried him there 20 years after he was executed.

I must confess, I would have most likely been a Loyalist. I love a good revolution, but I'm a huge Anglophile. Despite my enormous pride in being a NYer, I dislike the rest of the country and would rather live as a full-time student at Cambridge.

Sorry, I ramble excessively!

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Oh, I ramble too. They were fairly good with teaching kids about Aboriginal culture when we were kids. The only problem I saw was that it was a nationalised programme, and the Aboriginal people don't have one culture. They have hundreds and hundreds of them! Tribes and populations acted as their own undulated, moving, breathing "countries" so to speak. In the Noongar area here in my region of the world, there are 15 tribes and 14 dialects!

I wish they kept up with that education in the schools. Kids really need to learn about the Indigenous populations (either in Australia or the US) and be instilled with a respect for them. I'm sad I don't know more about the people of my area. I'll fix that now, I've decided.

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't know what the percentage of Aboriginal people left in Australia is, but it's abysmal in the States. Less than 1% of the population. To make matters worse for the Northeast, where I live, there aren't really any Indigenous peop people left whatsoever. Perhaps a few people who could claim that their settler ancestors married someone from a local tribe, but this area was once home to the great Iroquois League and now there's no one. So it's really hard to get any information that isn't tainted by the settlers' contemporary views. Which makes me sad, honestly. I'm first-generation American and my own history is lost because of genocide.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

It is estimated there are 28,000 Noongars left in the Perth area. All other races make up 1200000 or so.

[girl-undone.livejournal.com]

That's staggering. :( I couldn't find numbers, but found the last state census, which listed Native Americans and Alaskan Natives (Pacific Island Natives are listed in a different group) made up %0.6 of the population of NY State. :/

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Well, there were 10,000 or so when the settlers got here. The Noongar lands go from Geraldton to Esperance here in WA, there's a map of Noongar lands on one of the websites I looked at last night. Hang on...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noongar

But that's just the Noongars. There are plenty of other populations of Indigenous Australians, and a horrible amount died at the hands of early settlers.

[purrdence.livejournal.com]

High school Society & Environment (Social Studies) teachers in WA are required to do at least one Aboriginal Studies related unit in year 8.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Are they? Brilliant! They didn't do that when I was at school. Or maybe they did and I wasn't paying attention.

[purrdence.livejournal.com]

They didn't really do it when I was in high school, which I suspect is around the same time you did. I think this is a fairly recently development, i.e. since we graduated.

Although it makes it harder when the teachers don't have much training in teaching Aboriginal Studies. I know when I was teaching it I was learning as I went.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

How does teaching Aboriginal Studies differ from other history/culture classes?

[purrdence.livejournal.com]

It's more it's easier to teach something you know and are familiar with already. I suspect there are a lot of teachers out there that could teach topics like the First Fleet, Ancient Egypt or British History with their eyess closed, because that's what they did in school or uni. (In my case, I've been dying to get a year 9 S&E class so I could do a unit on Japan when they have to do their mandatory Asian Studies unit).

[hotclaws.livejournal.com]

It's just a shame it was money did this and not the radio stations showing taste,conscience and a sense of public responsibility.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I mean, there's an upside to this, but my cynicism won't let me enjoy it. That and it's never nice to see anyone's life ruined, even if it is by their own flaming stupidity.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

I'm just really tired of overprivileged ass-wanks never getting called for their bad behaviour. When they actually do, I feel a glimmer of hope.