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I would like to think that I was reasonably civil in this conversation. Believe me, I had a lot of cutting and horrible things I'd rather have said, but I figure I'd be saying them in anger.

[livejournal.com profile] mynxii, [livejournal.com profile] callistra and [livejournal.com profile] angriest - I love you guys. Thank you so much.

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Date: 2008-12-12 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
Civil and completely reasonable. I think you put it all very well and said everything that needed to be said. *hugs*

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Date: 2008-12-12 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Thanks buddy! *hugs*

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Date: 2008-12-12 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asweetdownfall.livejournal.com
Ohh, Nance. -hugs-

I don't know you managed to be so civil but..you deserve all the kudos in the world for that.

(And um, I couldn't agree more with your comment.)

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Some hours away from the computer and 110 dollars worth of retail therapy.

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Date: 2008-12-12 06:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com
You did very very well.
*hugs*

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*hugs* Thanks, buddy. :)

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Date: 2008-12-12 07:42 am (UTC)
ext_54569: starbuck (Default)
From: [identity profile] purrdence.livejournal.com
Well done.

(and thanks for posting the link. I took him off my list, so I wouldn't have seen it.)
Edited Date: 2008-12-12 12:40 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*nods* No probs. I think it was vile the way he loaded the admission with things to gain him sympathy. I would have been far more impressed with, "I did it. I have no excuses." FINITE. THAT'S IT. No descriptions of how horrible his life has become, how hard things are for him, none of that shit. It. Is. IRRELEVANT.

(As you can tell, I haven't had a good bitch about it yet).

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Date: 2008-12-12 02:21 pm (UTC)
ext_54569: starbuck (Default)
From: [identity profile] purrdence.livejournal.com
Sad thing is, I've seen many a student try similar tricks when they get in trouble.

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*nods* I know.

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Date: 2008-12-12 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfyre01.livejournal.com
Well said, Nace. I don't think that I would've been so kind.

((((Nacey))))

I'm online if you want to chat.

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
I don't know how I kept my shit together.

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Date: 2008-12-12 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xedra.livejournal.com
(((HUGHUGHUG)))

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*hugs* Thanks :)

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Date: 2008-12-12 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alya1989262.livejournal.com
Woah. That was really brave of you. You awesome woman. *hugs*

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Date: 2008-12-12 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Heh! Thank you. I think my sister is braver. She had a horrible violent rape and she totally forgave her attacker. I haven't forgiven him yet. I accept his apology but that's not the same this as forgiveness. I'm still angry at him. I'll need some more time.

I just figure, all the psych appointments in the world aren't gonna help if that dipshit thinks that it was a moment of weakness and depression that did this. There's a WHOLE lot more going on that he needs to deal with and I figured, "Fuck it, I'm going to tell him that."

And I just had to tell him the truth - he couldn't take what I wasn't giving freely. I could say that to him over and over again, it's that cathartic LOL. But I think he's got the fucking message. LOL!

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Date: 2008-12-12 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebeckras.livejournal.com
Jesus. Okay, you were amazing. *hugs*

I'm disgusted by his "I don't want sympathy. I'm a horrible person. Don't even try to tell me otherwise" whining. The only reason anyone ever says that is so people will come up and tell them it's not true and he's filthy for it.

And you're amazing.

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Date: 2008-12-12 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
Its the same as the suicide thing -- threatening suicide is what you do to make it all about you again. It shows remorse, but also shows you are the same egocentric creep.

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Date: 2008-12-12 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebeckras.livejournal.com
Yep, exactly. "I'M a victim here too, don't you see?" :P I'm sure he does feel awful. I'm sure it is hard for him to cope. But this makes it sound like he had no choice in the matter, and the fact that he feels guilt and remorse should wash the sin away.

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
He's a manipulative cunt.

Thank you. *hugs* I woke up depressed today. Not happy about it. This better not ruin my fucking Christmas.

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Date: 2008-12-12 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scotsnow.livejournal.com
Whoa, that's WAAAAY more polite that I could have managed. Nicely said.

And what a deeply horrible thing for you to have to go through. Jeez.


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Date: 2008-12-13 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
It was all the sympathy people had for him that upset me the most.

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scotsnow.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was a bit mystified by that myself.

You handled yourself beautifully though. I've noticed you have a knack for dealing with ... idiots (for want of a better) online with clarity and directness.

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Took a long time for me to get that way. I was a real dickhead in my early years online.

There's a lot of rage and hurt and malice that I didn't express, trust me.

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Date: 2008-12-12 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
I thought you said what had to be said, and said it well.

100% support from me.

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Thanks, Cakeyman. *hugs* Miss you!

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Date: 2008-12-13 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*hugs* I read what you said at the post. Thank you so much for standing by me.

It's all dredged up horrible emotions with me and I'm thoroughly depressed again.

Right now my brain is flipping out that people still want to talk to him, knowing what he did. I could never talk to a sex offender. I could never trust them, I could never like them. I felt that way before the assault, too. (My big sister was raped and I've seen the damage it's done).

I just want to rage. I just want to tell him HOW he's ruined my life, how he's made it unbearable, how he's spoiled something that made me truly happy. I want to tell him that I honestly DON'T CARE that he's hurting, that fuck, I'm glad, cause he fucking deserves every fucking minute of it.

But all those things take away from me as a person and I know, deep down, that I don't mean them, not really. I feel them but I know, logically, that they're not going to help me, karmicly or emotionally. Blackness begets blackness.

But I do feel better for being angry.

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Date: 2008-12-13 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
It's all dredged up horrible emotions with me and I'm thoroughly depressed again.
It got a really bad emotional response from me, and it must have been so much worse for you.

my brain is flipping out that people still want to talk to him, knowing what he did
Because they are better people than he is.

But I do feel better for being angry.
And that is why you should feel fine about it. If it makes you feel better its probably good. Sometimes the only way to get it out of your system is to let yourself feel it.

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Date: 2008-12-13 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
You should see what this kowren person is saying to me. It is UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE. They're actually angry at me for not being a soft wuffy-puffle forgiving maid and being prickly about this subject. I was actually told this morning "You're now only the victim if you let yourself be."

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

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Date: 2008-12-13 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robin99.livejournal.com
I'm so proud of you <3

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Date: 2008-12-13 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Thanks. *hugs*

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