logansrogue: (Default)
[personal profile] logansrogue
Okay. So some of you may have discovered this terrible kerfuffle surrounding [livejournal.com profile] msscribe/[livejournal.com profile] light_music.

I wasn't going to say anything about it, but she's deleted her journal, so I feel free to make comment.

She was one of my online buddies. I had a lot of affection for her. I stepped up to defend her back in the day when she was in trouble cause of her 'nanny', even taking an icon to proclaim my faith in her. And she's been there for me when I've hit some terrible lows.

What's worse is that I fell for the whole bullshit about pottersginny. I was totally sucked in. I helped demonise GT, and I feel so fucking dirty and bad for that, cause GT never did anything wrong. If there were any Gryffindor Tower people around me today, I'd say I was very, very sorry, and that if I could, I'd try to bring back all that LJ and the shitstorm took from them. The lie made me into something I hate. A bully.

I think the worst thing is that I feel hurt. I hate being lied to. I'm glad I wasn't one of her super-close buddies. I did hold her to be H/Hr brethren, though, a respected comrade in my oft turbulent Ship. I looked up to her, cause she was funny, amusing, had great kids, and was just a generally cool person. I treasured her comments cause they were always heartening and smile-worthy.

I was ready to believe a rebuttal to this from her, but she deleted her journal so obviously - she was telling us all lies.

Dionne - it hurts, but it's not the worst thing that has ever been done to me. I'll miss you. I'm sorry that you had to make it like this.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-25 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfyre01.livejournal.com
I'm sorry that all this mess has happened - and how many people have been so hurt by this insanity as well. What a shame - and it's all over a series of books - and fandom.

Very sad. Fandom scares the living bejesus out of me sometimes. It really does :-(

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-25 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornfields.livejournal.com
Word, Sandy.

I'm sorry as well. I was on the outskirts of the HP fandom (I shipped H/Hr, but spent most of my time in the S/Hr communities) when most of the original wank went down. It's amazing how it took five years for the truth about [livejournal.com profile] delawarean to finally come out. :(

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-25 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
What hurts is that I've been buddies with her all those years. I supported her. I supported a *liar*.

I hate lying. :( And I hate the bad blood this caused. I wish people could be friends. :(

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-25 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornfields.livejournal.com
I know how you feel. I'm sorry. *hugs*

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-25 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicoli-dominn.livejournal.com
Hmm. I knew there was online drama about fanfiction, but I never knew the extent to which people were willing to go for it. I'm speechless...and I didn't even finish reading that huge 'bio.'

::shakes her head, mystified::

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idealfacade.livejournal.com
I still don't know what is going on. I just know that somome wrote a huge bio about mscribe and that she wrote H/Hr fic?

As for the rest... I'm confused. How did it inspire wank? Anyone wish to inform me?

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
There was a smaller scale scandal with some elements in common (though without all the sock puppets and accusations, and mostly about claimed publishing achievements) very close to home (ie involving people well known in local SF scene). Its painful, inevitably self-destructive.

My sympathies to everyone sucked in.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berenicepotter.livejournal.com
I second this :/

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pooxs.livejournal.com
I don't quite understand what's going on? You supported someone who was lying? What about?

*confused look*

but also *hugs*

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Uhm - it's a very, very long story. This person basically made up trolls to attack her at various HP places so that people would flock around her. Hence making her more popular. Not particularly nice.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pooxs.livejournal.com
oh right - wow, intense.

I can't even imagine someone going to that sort of effort!

sucky :(

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
They did it for YEARS. That's what people are amazed about.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ktempest.livejournal.com
Hi, I'm just a wandering stranger here. Saw your comment on the biography post and checked out your LJ. Nice layout :) Anyway, I just wanted to also say that I'm sorry this has affected you so much. Don't ask me why it's affected *me* at all, as I don't know you. but I've had plenty of friends turn out to be not what they claimed to be and have been through plenty of betrayal. So I have tons of empathy.

Tempest

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-26 07:13 pm (UTC)
sl_walker: (RD - Quarantine - Puppet)
From: [personal profile] sl_walker
I read the entire biography and found it really amusing. I suppose it wouldn't have been if I had been tied to the fandom, but as someone who's never had even a vague interest in the HP fandom, it read as an absolutely facinating account.

Don't feel too terribly bad that you were duped. A lot of people were, people who should have known better but put faith in a friend who lied. She basically played on everyone's feelings.

I did read as much of her stuff as I could find, and didn't find her to be particularly clever myself -- in fact, she came across as a somewhat snobby bigot, regardless of whatever her heritage was. But then again, I might have had an entirely different opinion if I'd interacted with her in any way over the years.

Chin up. You are still a wonderful artist, and you've got your own cult status... and you didn't need sock puppets to do it, darlin'. You're already ten feet taller'n her.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Thanks. It *still* doesn't feel like it's real. It feels like a silly dream.

I think it's had a sobering effect on fandom, though. I think people are taking time to really have a good look at the so-called 'opposition', without their fandom shades on. It's a good thing. If new friendships and understanding come from this - I'll be really glad.

Thanks for coming to my journal, it means a lot.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
I would have found it funny, too, if it wasn't one of my close online friends.

I never looked behind the things she said, you know? I trusted her. I don't know why. She just seemed such a normal, fun person.

I never read much of her work, actually. It wasn't why I was buddies with her for. I don't remember why - I guess cause she was a funny, friendly shipmate, you know?

... I have a cult status? If by cult you mean 'small but loyal following', I suppose so, but I just like to think of them as a really big bunch of net buddies. But thanks. :) *hug*

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 06:27 pm (UTC)
sl_walker: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sl_walker
I never looked behind the things she said, you know? I trusted her.

That's always the hardest part. There are so many people on the 'net who are honest, and so many who aren't. And after awhile it becomes kind very hard to differentiate. I've been lucky in that I've never had bad experiences like you and a lot of others have just suffered, but I can certainly imagine how hard it is.

... I have a cult status?

In a friendly, not-worshipped-but-respected-and-liked kinda way. Net buddies works too.

Don't let it break your heart. For every Msscribe, there's a bunch more friends who care without having to lie. My friend's a psychologist and quite an excellent one; she thinks that, from what she's read, Msscribe should seek professional help and that she needs professional help. Given how much I trust this girl's opinion, and how good she is at counseling, it does alter my views a little on your friend... it's harder to look at her as being a purely manipulative bitch if, in fact, she has a mental disorder that contributed to this fiasco. I'm not the expert, but like I said, I really do have a great deal of faith in my friend's opinion.

Her new LJ name is dejaspirit, I believe. If you do remain her friend, or ever reconnect with her, you might want to encourage her to seek some help.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
I'd rather be respected than worshipped. It's much healthier. :D

Thanks for letting me know her new LJ name. I don't know if I want to seek her out or not. I'm still smarting. I think it's pretty damned clear that Dionne needs some help. That shit was utterly bananas.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 08:45 pm (UTC)
sl_walker: (My Life - My OTP)
From: [personal profile] sl_walker
I think it's pretty damned clear that Dionne needs some help.

It is. I hope she gets it, for the sake of her kids (if she does, in fact, have kids or a kid), and just because it might help whatever desperate need fueled the disaster that was just exposed.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-27 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
She does. I've seen heaps of photos - they're real.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-28 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingreptile.livejournal.com
Wierd. Like there is a lack of real trolls on the internet or something.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-28 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know. Obviously they weren't paying enough attention to her or something *shrugs*.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-06-29 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainfletcher.livejournal.com
Aw, crap, now I'm going to have to go to bed uncertain of whether or not I'm someone's sock puppet, and up until now, I didn't even know what that meant.

I'm sorry that this has bummed you out as much as it has. For my own part, my head's just spinning, and all I can think is how glad I am that I never felt the need to go to such lengths to get people to read my stuff and/or like me. (I had to settle for bugging individual people incessantly until they eventually caved and read, doncha know, though the liking part is up for interpretation.)

It's such a hackneyed phrase, but... keep it real, Nace.

Profile

logansrogue: (Default)
logansrogue

April 2017

S M T W T F S
      1
2345678
9101112131415
16171819202122
23242526272829
30      

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags