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Just reading up on Gnosticism, and it amazes me on how many different types there are. I refrain from calling myself Gnostic cause there's a lot wrapped up in that phrase that I don't believe in the slightest. At the same time there's plenty that, upon reading about, made me feel as though I'd found what I'd been missing in my spiritual outlook, that brought me a lot of peace.

There's usually so much going on in my head when I get in these moods that I find it very hard to pick out one thread of thought and express it. Somehow it forces the idea to limit itself to words. I have an image, an emotion and thought infused image that means the word to me. God I wish people were psychic. It's very nebulous.

So all I can probably think to do is to make points and hope they make some sense.

- I don't believe in dualism to the effect that there's bad energy and good energy fighting each other. I think God is responsible for both and that both have their place in the theatre of life. If we never experience the 'bad' things (like death, hate, fear, anger, sadness) we'll never grow spiritually.
- I don't believe that we should hate this life we're living. It's not a cage and it's not an illusion. We're not with God for a reason. (And I use God in the all-encompassing ineffable Monad type way, for lack of a better word). I honestly believe that we live life to learn lessons. And we keep coming back until we're perfect. We're a part of the great energy and we're helping it learn about itself.
- The Bible makes barely any sense at all when taken in the literal sense. I don't believe it's a book to be taken literally. It's a guide, a tome full of riddles for long contemplation. The people that do take it literally ignore the biggest metaphor builder of all - Jesus. He always spoke with symbolism and double meaning. When used as a guide and a tool for meditation, the Bible can be very powerful. But hell. An ant crawling across the ground can be too! Sadly, there is also a lot of tosh in the Bible.
- I don't view Jesus as my saviour in the sense that He's dying for my sins. I view him as a path to my higher spiritual self. I need to access that self sometimes, to bring calm when I feel I'm not surviving in this run of life.

Well, I got lost in reading an article and now the spiritual spaz has left me. Or it could be me having a moment with the codeine. Who knows. I'm gonna draw. Love youse.

-N

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Date: 2006-04-17 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berenicepotter.livejournal.com
Hey, I scanned you CHO/GINNY pic :3 alrady posted.

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Date: 2006-04-17 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nousia.livejournal.com
I love this entry.

<3

Have fun drawing!

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Date: 2006-04-17 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Hehe, thanks, darlin'. And I am! The drawing is going swimmingly!

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Date: 2006-04-17 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tha-prez.livejournal.com
i was reading up on a religion called lachrymology which is quite similiarly based around the point u made about spiritual growth through physical and mental pain (and subsequent release of it. Very interesting. I agree with your analogy about jesus too, if only the christian faith didnt look down upon other religions so strongly.

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Date: 2006-04-17 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Hmm. Never heard of it before. Interesting. I don't really think that the Christian faith DOES, if you don't take it literally.

Being a good person is being a good person, it doesn't matter if you do it in the name of Buddha, Jesus or Mohammed. It's that goodness that is the way to 'heaven', so I think when Jesus says that you can't get to heaven any way but through him, that you can't get to heaven any way but through being a good person and trying to improve and be close to your spiritual core (whatever path it takes to get to that point).

How are you, btw? Haven't heard from you in yonks!

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Date: 2006-04-18 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tha-prez.livejournal.com
Being a good person is being a good person, it doesn't matter if you do it in the name of Buddha, Jesus or Mohammed. It's that goodness that is the way to 'heaven', so I think when Jesus says that you can't get to heaven any way but through him, that you can't get to heaven any way but through being a good person and trying to improve and be close to your spiritual core (whatever path it takes to get to that point).

my sentiments exactly. me? i have been busy. Uni is stressing me out as i am 5 weeks behind everything and have to hand in two assignments this week, one of which i havent started yet. So im kinda on a continous valium infusion at the moment as i try to juggle working three days a week with my neurotic parents increasing financial demands as well as (of course) my growing pile of homework. But thats ok, because i'll just up my dosage and keep on going.

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Date: 2006-04-18 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Valium is good shit. But you don't want to get too dependent on it. Take care of that, huh? :) I had to quit school entirely because of my health problems. I wish I were in school, stressing about deadlines! *sigh*

I know you'll make it okay. :) You're a smart fella.

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Date: 2006-04-18 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tha-prez.livejournal.com
Sometimes we have to take a step back before we can take a step forward. Don't stress too much about not being able to go to school. It gives u a chance to develop your other talents.

Its quite interesting because i was talking to my friend last night who is pretty much in the same situation as you. (Not being able to do anything for a long time because of her disability) But although that really shat her, it also showed her how hard it is for disabled people to get work or function. (social stigma's etc) Now when she does get better she could do something about it. Its just like what i was mentioning (and you) earlier about lachrymology. Spiritual growth through pain. It does sound somewat sadistic doesn't it?

Yeah im not too bothered about my assignments. (That's the valium talking)

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Date: 2006-04-17 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixwriter.livejournal.com
Gnosticism is a rather complicate believe but so are the known believes. Personally, I came to the conclusion even if my believes are very different to my religion (roman catholic) it isn't a reason to join a different religion. Yet if asked what I believe in, I answer it's Christian Agnostic that sums it pretty much up.

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Date: 2006-04-18 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cedargrove.livejournal.com
I love your post here, and boy do I ever miss having discussions about this kind of thing. They used to be a regular part of my life, but through changes in personal circumstances and everything they are now sadly missing. I can have them with myself, of course and regularly do, but being in a state of exploration with another person, that's something else.

Thank you for posting this. *love, light, truth and trust*
Eiri

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Date: 2006-04-18 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
Well, if you're on any time soon, I'll try to catch you. I'm having a phase of waking up pretty early. :) And there's always email. :)

*hugs* Thank you for responding!

Love,
Nancy.
PS - Had thoughts about my Medjai. Shall tell you about them.

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