Oh, Fuck you, "Gabe" and "Tycho"

[logansrogue]

Team Dickwolf t-shirts! YAY RAPISTS! (TW: Rape culture discussed within).

Seriously, though. I am never clicking on Penny Arcade links ever again. Those fuckers are dead to me.

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[angriest.livejournal.com]

I am very, very angry with them.

The "raped by dickwolves" strip I forgave as idiot boys being idiots boys, and many, many people brought to their attention that they'd been at best insensitive and puerile. Their "retreat into our bunker and take sniggering potshots" responses have made me very, very shitty with them.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

How they continue to have fans with any sense of social justice at this point amazes me.

I mean, I'm a fairly forgiving feminist. I keep watching a lot of have continued to watch certain shows that have made rape jokes (The IT Crowd, for which Graham Linehan apologised, no hesitation, no bullshit, and also a lot of sketch comedy shows which have made slips, like Monty Python). It all depends on how the creators react once called on their misstep.

This behaviour, it's just - I don't understand it. If someone is hurting, you don't go to hurt them more. That's not how being a good person works. It's called being an arsehole.

Why do people want to be arseholes!? Why!?

[mawaridi.livejournal.com]

The only silver lining is that if I ever see anyone wearing this shirt I will know to stay the fuck away from them.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's good to have a shirt that says, "RAPE APOLOGIST! RUN!" Very handy to know who to avoid.

[shantari.livejournal.com]

I've generally found their comic to be overrated, only reading strips when linked to them on tvtropes, never feeling a need or desire to follow it regularily. But this is SHIT! It's one thing to make a rapejoke. It's a worse thing to not man up and actually apologize through a real understanding of why people reacted, and instead make your own assumptions that others are being overly sensitive to be overly sensitive. But it's beyond nerves and ignorance to actually go and turn this into a fucking t-shirt. That's just plain out stating "you're wrong for daring to be offended so you deserve to be mocked".

Now, I don't mind offensive humor. I have no personal problem with a lot of dark humor, but I have a absurdity limit. I need my dark humour to be so bizarre I can't see it generally affecting people. Just like one of the article-writers in the link. But mostly it's just that I hate when things are added for no real reason, because it's hilarious to the jokemaker but no one else. The strip would have worked without the rape reference, and been more true to the nature of the games without it. The implications of leaving prisoners to the fate of enforced servitude, beatings, incarceration, e.t.c. would still be dark humour. What, is being inprisoned suddenly not a horrible thing anymore? Are they so intune with their basements, so turned off from the sunlight, that they can't understand why someone would want to leave a dank prisonhole unless they were being raped on a daily basis?

Bull shit!

[meleth.livejournal.com]

A lot of those examples actually really bothered me.

[shantari.livejournal.com]

There are probably examples on the list that bothers me too. But this is also an important thing, everyone has their own limit. If they don't think people with a different limit from what they have should read the comic, it'd probably be better to have a content warning than acting like total assholes.

I know I have a lot of things I laugh at and think is funny, which I know would bother a lot of people with different experience from me who would find it utterly disturbing.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

They spoke about dark humour at the link I put up there. Generally, I like my dark humour to be aimed at the oppressors rather than the oppressed. That's the whole point of good humour. To subverse the power structure and equalise the situation, helping the sufferer to cope with the situation through laughter. It's amazing how many so-called comedians DON'T get that.

[shantari.livejournal.com]

You'd think the whole genre of servants-with-attitude-jokes would clue them in to the potential. (Although I technically disagree with you, and rather think the point is somewhere closer to topple expectations while still offering a logical conclusion, thus catching you off guard enough to toggle your instincts of "something's not what I expected it to be, time to panic" only to just as instantenously assure you that it's okay so that you react with relief. I do agree that's the point with using humor about such topics, but not that it's the point of the humor inherent. I just tend to overanalyze humor like that.)

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

The problem with the "topple expectations" thing is most comedians are really fucking bad and think something is TOTALLY out there when, hey, shit, it's not. This situation? Case in point.

Like, to these guys, the idea of their fans raping anybody is TOTALLY LEFT FIELD! No way would that ever happen! Rape is ridiculous and never happens to anybody who's not a whore or a twit.

So I'm of the opinion that most can't do that form of humour, and it's only safe to do it with topics that AREN'T associated with violent trauma.

[meleth.livejournal.com]

See, "dickwolves" would have eventually worked if they'd made it into something akin to 'douchebag' or 'cockmongling douchecanoe.' "Dude, don't be a dickwolf. Nobody likes a dickwolf. I want you to go away and think about what you've done" or something like that. But no, they had to stick with the "rape victims are oversensitive buzzkills" meme.

[logansrogue.livejournal.com]

That would have required them to be human beings whose heads aren't so firmly embedded up their arses that they could wear their own shit as a hat.

Yeah, I'm pretty angry about this.

[annlarimer.livejournal.com]

That's the thing. I love a good swear. "Dickwolf" is an excellent swear. And they've fucking ruined it, the goddamn dickcheezling cockbites.

[meleth.livejournal.com]

I propose a "dickwolf: we're taking it back" campaign.

[annearchy.livejournal.com]

EWWWWWWW!!