I was sort of talking about all the women that were talking about it being their sexual fantasy. And I was trying to understand *why* women enjoy that. I like to understand differing opinions on things.

I never said I think it's *wrong* in any way, just that I felt funny about it in my own situation.

I agree with you - that ad is demeaning, as is the one where the man is getting fondled (though somehow it's less menacing because he's visibly stronger than the stick-thin models supposedly 'holding' him down).